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Delta executive says no fit for A380 in carrier's system

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The Airbus A380, the world's largest jetliner, does not figure in the current plans of Delta Air Lines Inc, an executive at the carrier said on Monday, citing the reliability and efficiency of smaller aircraft. "We don't see an application for the A380 in our network," Steve Dickson, senior vice president for flight operations, said during an interview at the AIAA Aviation Forum in Atlanta. (www.reuters.com) Mehr...

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ColinSeftel
Colin Seftel 3
The largest A380 operator, Emirates, is also one of the world's most profitable airlines. (http://www.tourism-review.com/travel-tourism-magazine-emirates-airlines-the-outlook-for-revenue-is-20-higher-article2184)
skylab72
skylab72 1
Profitability is pretty much last among criteria for picking an airline to fly, at least if you care about the other criteria, like safety or efficiency.
genethemarine
Gene spanos 2
This approach we agree on despite the two Group six approved r/ways ( 9C ) TBA and
10 C already in use here at the 2nd busiest AP - Hub in the nation.
ChrisMD123
ChrisMD123 2
You know they're not louder, right?
Zahorsky
Zahorsky 2
I have just been on the A380 on a flight from Frankfurt to Miami (my first flight on the A380) and I must say I am quite impressed with the low level of noise as well as the lack of vibration. The A380 obviously presents a new level of passenger comfort. Together with its lower fuel consumption the A380 certainly is a new class of its own.
Karl-Heinz Zahorsky, Commercial Pilot, N662TC

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sparkie624
sparkie624 1
You got that right.
honzanl
honza nl -2
yes, let's use a 1960's era airframe instead? like the 737?
thecohorts
Matt LaMay 1
Your argument is so flawed that it hurts. Ever hear of the A300? Also, the A320 series is no spring chicken itself.
canuck44
canuck44 2
This is a consistent philosophy from Delta...the Boeing strategy if you like. Smaller aircraft from more decentralized hubs like Seattle wringing maximum range from their aircraft. Seattle will be 332/333 or 763 service hopefully drawing service away from YVR, LAX and SFO. As these aircraft wear out they will be replaced with more fuel efficient models of 787 (2020 delivery) or 350 series.

The AirBus people shouldn't feel too badly about this...Delta already said they would pass on the 777X for many of the same reasons although they may want to replace their 77L down the road.
pbujold
Pat Bujold 2
I'm guessing but I'll bet the A380 provides some comfort to passengers. I just got back from Europe flying Delta both ways and the seating sucked at best. If passengers are going to be comfortable, Delta wants nothing to do with it. As I say, just a guess.
Mauitunes
Bob Bourbeau 1
Asiana Airlines (OZ) is really making a push with its A380 service, especially in its TV ads in the U.S. ("It's all about you"). I haven't had the chance to try it out yet, but the A380 first class is truly lie-flat service for every seat, which is transformed into individual, private "cabins," a la sleeper cars on trains. It looks intriguing. Now of course they're based in Seoul and mostly serve the Pacific and Southeast Asia market, but for someone like me who's based in Hawai`i, it's definitely worth a serious look.
skylab72
skylab72 1
Go Delta! Now about all those 320s...
antokalaz1
antonio alaniz 1
I can't see how this bird could fit into what they are doing now. I am in a small market mid-west area so Delta is our lifeline and what they are doing in Detroit is pretty forward thinking.
RRKen
I am in a small market in the Midwest, and will not fly Delta anywhere because of their monopolistic behaviors. Fly me to ORD, where there is a choice of 60+ carriers, not to any of Delta's hubs.

A380's have a lot of applications in the U.S. as foreign carriers are proving to us on a daily basis. (BAW, AFR, DLH, SIA, KAL, QFA, UAE, et al). They all can't be wrong.
LGM118
LGM118 8
None of the US airlines have gone for the A380, however, and it's for basically the reason you're pointing out - connecting traffic. In Europe and Asia, landing slots are expensive, airports are more compact, and because of that it's better to fly fewer flights with larger aircraft. In the United States, it makes more sense to take advantage of the high available capacity and fly more frequent flights with smaller aircraft.
gnaswarren
Warren Gnas 1
I find it laughable that FF programs were initially developed to create passenger loyalty and, as it appears that airlines one by one, (example: DL first, now UAL) are choosing to switch to an monetary-based awards system making it extremely difficult to achieve reward levels . The very design of the FF program to promote loyalty has become extraneous. We will now choose based on fare and convenience and not go the "extra mile" -so to speak- to be loyal to those carriers that have essentially abandoned their Faithful Flyers...
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I am glad to hear that... Do not like those planes...
alexster4324
Alec Cohen 1
yeah that's a bunch of garbage the A380 is overtaking the 747 as the 747 is slowly ending no body is buying the -800s except Polar air Cathay, Korean air cargo Lufthansa, Cargolux cargo they only have one civilian operator of it the A380 is the better choice
sparkie624
sparkie624 -1
LOL... Yeah Right.. Not one US Carrier has even looked at them...
honzanl
honza nl 2
because the USA is a small market nowadays: it is the Middle-East and Asia where the numbers are sold. And guess what: theyre they order them?
JENNYJET
JENNIFER JORDAN -1
The point of the A380 was to offer paying customers a product they may have dreaming of since the early days of air travel. It is for AIRBUS and it's customers to the books however some of the finest airlines have chosen to deploy this aircraft as a product among many on offer.

The A380 offers so much more than any current Boeing for passengers e.g. where upon a B787 can a passenger get a massage or go to a bar upstairs?

It is understandable for US carriers to shun anything that Boeing can offer but is the B747-8 the best they can offer?
Chellappan
A pity - A380 would have worked well from ATL - and reduced some congestion. No need to mention that it is a great aircraft, more comfortable than the 777.

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