Residents rally against noisy air traffic

the people that moved into sun city south started complaining about the noise from luke.
i'd tell them to stuff it and not be concerned about any harshness.

That's exactly what I would tell them if I were in charge!

Indeed. I lived about 4 miles from KMIA 12/30 Those old 727's banking over the house before they turned south to the Caribbean. They would rattle the plates off the shelf and whatever conversation was going on just stopped. On the other hand there were still some Connie's, Dc6's and 7's, and 2 C97's flying out That was music

I lived by a railroad for most of my childhood, it used to shake my bed slightly at night. Why aren't we demanding the railroad companies move their lines!?!?!

Hey easy way to solve the problems there is lots of unused land in most states, well its farm land far from any large city. You know like central Washington then all of those left siders could drive for four hours to get on there airliner.

Half Moon Bay doesn't reside off the end of the SFO runways, nor is it exactly close to the airport, either. It does however, sit underneath one of the relatively new RNAV STAR arrivals into SFO. As an airline pilot I can tell you we fly these arrivals very precisely, because the FARs and company Ops Specs require us (mostly) to use the FMS and autopilot when flying RNAV STARs and SIDs. So the claim that there are more airplanes overhead is probably true. As to the noise, well that can be debatable due to the crossing altitudes and various aircraft engines/noise output.

Do they have a right to complain about increased air traffic overhead, that wasn't there before .. and they don't live 'near the airport'. Of course they have that right. As to the perceived noise, even the FAA has said in studies here in the Bay area, there isn't much difference in actual sound levels on the ground, when compared to before. But in any case: whether we move RNAV procedures or not, the long-term problem won't go away. Living in a highly-populated area comes with some consequences. The airport is not moving; there is no place to put it. As we continue to add more and more flights by customer demand into constrained airports, they problem of noise, and airplanes overhead, will never go away.

They moved the Denver airport 20 miles out of town in 1994. There are still complaints among the Front Range cities of too many airplanes overhead and 'noise'.

Not much different than others who gripe about housing and rent prices expecting some one to help them foot there bills. These people who are griping about this are some of the same ones if they had to go out into the middle of no where to get on a flight they would again gripe.

Thank you for understanding that there are complicated issues. I live in another city and this is in fact what happened. Not only are the flight paths rerouted and concentrated, but the ascent/decent seems much longer which puts the aircraft at a lower altitude for a greater distance. I live on a hill that is 400ft in elevation and the aircraft fly under 2000ft over me on a landing pattern. 2000 - 400 = 1600. That's getting low for noise over residential neighborhoods that are 20 miles from the airport. When I purchased my home, I was not under the flight path. To top it off, the airport built a third runway which created an additional flight path.

I catch myself wondering if this is to support noise abatement for neighborhoods around the airport, fuel efficiency, safety or convenience. I can't help to notice that they do not fly over the ultra wealthy neighborhoods. It seems they almost go out of their way to avoid them. I do believe that the city has zero authority or influence and the Port doesn't care about residents (or the city). Why can't the flight paths spiral in/out from the runways like a fan? Granted, it would affect more people but there would be greater breaks between overhead planes for each neighborhood.

We have the same thing happening in western central MA - people buying houses next to farms that have been here for OVER a century, then complaining about the smell.

Several years back, there was a new development that went in next to a trucking company - they cried and complained about the dock noise all night long. What the hell did they expect???

I swear people are becoming mentally deficient in the 21st Century ...