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Delta Air Lines will not delay its 2018 deliveries of CSeries planes from Canada's Bombardier Inc
the carrier's chief executive said on Thursday, following an anti-dumping complaint by Boeing Co against the jets. (www.yahoo.com) Mehr...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Boeing = do what I say not what I do
THE 37-700's price of 22 million or whatever doesn't even matter, because so many larger 37's and wide bodies are sold to United - SO Boeing's Ultimate profit is unknown but the sales technique is fairly clear :)
Boeing says that Bombardier and Airbus are subsidized with government help. If the subsidies went away and they could not develop aircraft and compete, they would go bankrupt and out of business. That would leave Boeing as a monopoly. It could be subject to being broken up, probably into military and commercial. Could it's commercial business survive at that point? Would that make the commercial business attractive to others to invest in possibly reviving Bombardier and Airbus? How would the airlines feel about that?
Boeing keeps opening its yap saying that basically it doesn't get subsidies, it is going to make a whole slew of folks ticked off..if you see my comment above, the WTO already slapped them upside the head back in November for taking illegal subsidies...Boeing takes subsidies all the time and dumps aircraft..as I said earlier, it costs a lot more than $22 mil to manufacture a 737 after all costs are taken into affect
i'm shocked.
do you mean to tell me that those air force 1 planes that sold for $4billion US, really didn't cost $4billion US to make?
i'm shocked, i tell you, shocked.
do you mean to tell me that those air force 1 planes that sold for $4billion US, really didn't cost $4billion US to make?
i'm shocked, i tell you, shocked.
The C Series is a plane I was looking forward to flying on. If it is true they were dumped at a below cost price to Delta then this is another
Delta does not have a big presence in Canada. The people making that plane will Air Canada, Jazz and West Jet among others of Canadian airlines. Delta gains nothing from those that build this plane; whereas a Boeing plane is built or assembled if you wish here in the lower 48 by people whose earnings could be used to travel on the planes they build. Economics 101 says to spend your money at home where it turns more often making fro a better economy.
Delta does not have a big presence in Canada. The people making that plane will Air Canada, Jazz and West Jet among others of Canadian airlines. Delta gains nothing from those that build this plane; whereas a Boeing plane is built or assembled if you wish here in the lower 48 by people whose earnings could be used to travel on the planes they build. Economics 101 says to spend your money at home where it turns more often making fro a better economy.
They were not dumped at below cost...Swiss airlines, Air Baltic, Korean Air, Quantas et all do not have a huge presence in Canada either, but Swiss and Air Baltic love their C-Series that they have taken delivery of.
The argument also, Boeing doesn't make a craft in the C-Series neighborhood so why are they throwing a fit..and I do not see them going after Airbus when Delta, United and American bought Airbus craft..Delta just took first delivery of it's new A350-900!
P.S. Bombardier does have a very good presence in the US with manufacture facilities and testing facilities.
The argument also, Boeing doesn't make a craft in the C-Series neighborhood so why are they throwing a fit..and I do not see them going after Airbus when Delta, United and American bought Airbus craft..Delta just took first delivery of it's new A350-900!
P.S. Bombardier does have a very good presence in the US with manufacture facilities and testing facilities.
I have a couple of problems with your "logic". Economics 101 would suggest as a company you buy the equipment that best serves your needs when providing a service to your customers. Let the communist countries (the very that are left) only by state produced goods, rather than the best product for the job. Planes are now globally produced commodities. You can't build a plane without suppliers from all over the world, including the U.S. Pratt & Whitney, Zodiak etc are all in the US supplying Bombardier. Please take a look at airframe.com
The next point is the fact that they consider selling below cost equates to dumping. That is simply not true in the aircraft business because virtually every new plane is below cost until the development costs are recouped. Do you think the 787 or A380 were sold at a profit for launch customers. Hell they're still being sold at a loss.
Boeing is crying foul simply because the CSeries is a good product and if they go to a CS500, Boeing will have to compete with another manufacturer. Boeing has tons of subsidies but then decries when anyone else does.
The next point is the fact that they consider selling below cost equates to dumping. That is simply not true in the aircraft business because virtually every new plane is below cost until the development costs are recouped. Do you think the 787 or A380 were sold at a profit for launch customers. Hell they're still being sold at a loss.
Boeing is crying foul simply because the CSeries is a good product and if they go to a CS500, Boeing will have to compete with another manufacturer. Boeing has tons of subsidies but then decries when anyone else does.