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Two US Flights Diverted After Unruly Passenger Incidents

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Air travel in the United States saw two separate cases of unruly passengers this week, forcing flight diversions and emergency responses from crew and law enforcement. (airguide.info) More...

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FlyingSeagull
Chris Browne 38
Wish articles like these named the passengers rather than allowing them anonymity.
MoominMama
Janice Watkins 3
Name and shame!
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
I wish we still had stocks and pillory for this kind of crime.
Diegodamonkey
Rory Armstrong 31
Maybe during the preflight safety briefing they should include pointing out the legal ramifications of becoming an unruly passenger on a flight. Might just bring the thought of it to the forefront on everyone’s mind. You can’t talk to any phone representative these days without first hearing the fact that any abusive language or rude conversation won’t be tolerated.
awinn
Alan Winn 22
I completely agree—airlines should highlight the legal consequences of rude and unruly behavior during the preflight safety briefing. Far too many passengers show little respect for fellow travelers and flight crews. Whatever happened to the simple principle of “treat others as you wish to be treated”?
xtoler
Larry Toler 19
Unfortunately, it's just not on the airlines. It's everywhere. Everyone is so sensitive and has no common decency.
GJurrens48
Gerald Jurrens 8
And I blame the current government for making hate the norm.
MikePerkins454
Mike Perkins 3
Our gvm't bombed the daylights out of the Germans and lit off two nukes in Japan. Yet those same ethnic groups have always peaceably flown on US aircraft. And you're blaming the gvm't for the actions of modern-day people? Funny.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 4
The increase happened under the previous government. Maybe instead of trying to blame everything on a particular government you could look at the changes in society since the pandemic.
xtoler
Larry Toler 5
You are right. The government has nothing to do with it. It is society as a whole.
ravenwolfmoon
Raven Harris 1
And what government was in power then? Same one we have now
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 3
I seem to recall a different president in power for 4 years. As I said maybe quit blaming the government and look at changes in society since the pandemic.
Comanchero24
Jim Wallace 5
So the government is the problem with people being stupid and acting stupid? That’s funny!
jstevenk
Steve Kidd 4
It does seem to give them permission to act that way.
muriellegirouard
Girouard Mumu 1
tout a fait d'accord votre opinion est une réalité.
bingobanner
Russ Brown 8
Get rid of the booze in terminals and on board.
xtoler
Larry Toler 9
That would be a lot of lost revenue, though. Some of that booze tax goes back into infrastructure. Also, what about the people who show up to the airport already drunk and still get through? It's just a shame to have to do away with something because only a few people ruin it for all. There are also plenty of peope who are just self entitled jerks without booze. We can't blame it all on booze.
ravenwolfmoon
Raven Harris 2
I don’t think that would work. They would just bring it and worse from home.
Nooge
Nooge 3
Get rid of the booze in terminals and on board says someome who wants to punish everyone vs the few who need some time in jail
Comanchero24
Jim Wallace 4
Agree. I couldn’t drink when flying my airplane but do enjoy one when subjected to airline travel. Bourbon with a view!
xtoler
Larry Toler 2
For now, part of the safety brief says that smoking is not allowed, including in the lavatory, and that there is a penalty of $1500 plus possible jail. At least that was part of my safety brief; I was trained.
bbabis
bbabis 23
You put 100 or more people together anymore and the odds are 5 of them are drunk or stoned and 5 others are just plain nut cases.
GJurrens48
Gerald Jurrens 2
#TRUTH
whdouglas
Will Douglas 1
Probably more like 25 are drunk
ace1deuce
Greg Costeens 1
Much as I try to avoid crowds of americans, it's not possible all the time. So I am on high-alert when traveling by air.
LashLaRue128
Studly Hungwell 10
Welcome to the forever "No Fly List"
The Airlines, and Law Enforcement need to do something about these
A-holes.
kenhash
Kenneth Hash 7
I'm with you. Additionally, all expenses and diversion costs should be levied onto the passenger/s that caused the disruption/diversion. A hefty bill for their misbehavior will correct their attitude!
carste10
carste10 2
Usually those types have little or nothing to their names, and for this very reason.
tothedude
The Dude 9
The first case is ridiculous, absolutely no need to turn the plane around.
The second case, make the pax pay the cost of the emergency sliders deployment.
LethalThreat
LethalThreat 7
The Hawaiian airlines flight was particularly unlucky with the incident it had. The disruption happened around 2hrs into the HNL-SEA flight. That would put the aircraft nearby the equal time point, in this case just before it. That means the crew had to deal with the disruptive passenger for at least another 2.5hrs more as they needed to turn around and fly all the way back to HNL.
aerobat3
I don't get it. A drunken woman? Big deal. Why couldn't the flight attendants simply restrain her and have her arrested on arrival?
xtoler
Larry Toler 2
Unfortunately, flight attendants (at least when I was flying) aren't really supposed to touch the pax. The reasoning is that the airline doesn't get sued if the unruly passenger gets injured. That said, someone coming at me, I'm still defending myself, f*** the airline I flew for. Chances are good, if I did restrain someone with duct tape or cable ties, there wouldn't be much said as long as the threat is contained and no one gets hurt.
CerealSpiller
Mike G 6
Time to require manadatory brigs on all trans-ocean flights. Equipped with straight-jackets.
Zot22
Bab Bezat 4
I could become a fan of duct tape and zip ties. (It's "strait jacket" BTW)
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
And a depressurization chamber and a door to exit the plane.
psobolev
Pete Sobolev 4
As the article states, since the pandemic this problems seems to have gotten worse. Since you have to deal with the currenrt situation of increased potential neurological problems among passengers, the cabin crews need better training and tools to quickly subdue disruptive people, along with reminding everyone before the flight of the consequences of disruptive behavior.
ed7778
Bring back them air marshals.
xtoler
Larry Toler 1
They are only ever on a few random flights.
Elvisf16
Grady Morton -1
Air Marshals wouldn’t even get involved in a situation like this.
skipmagro
Skip Magro 3
Maybe airlines should be doing alcohol testing before letting passengers on the plane!!!
xtoler
Larry Toler 1
Not practical.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
Why not? If they can’t pas a quick sobriety test they forfeit their ticket with no reimbursement. You can be damn sure they would make sure they are sober at the boarding gate.
flshawkzak
This is what you get when all of the Greyhound Bus Line passengers start using airlines for travel.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 1
Hey whackadoodle crazies gotta travel too.
MoominMama
Janice Watkins 2
It should be in the terms and conditions when booking the flight, IN LARGE CAPITAL LETTERS, and as an on-flight statement before the safety briefing before take off, that any passenger(s) causing disruptions on any flight should be MADE to pay, by law;
1. restitution to the airline for further expense incurred for damage to the aircraft,
2. the cost of refuelling,
3. reimbursement to the airline for having to compensate the remaining passengers for the inconvenience,
4. any personal injury caused to other passengers or crew member by/as a result of the unruly/drunk/stoned passenger(s) actions.
5. given a permanent "No Fly" order for life for EVERY airline in the WORLD, not just the one on which the incidents(s) occur.
When I first flew;
a. drunk passengers were NOT allowed to board an aircraft. If the boarding desk staff could smell alcohol on the passenger's breath, it was enough to prevent boarding, confiscate their ticket/boarding pass and be handed over to security to escort the offender away from the airport building. Their hold luggage was unloaded and handed over once they were out of the building.
b. duty free items were delivered to the plane, not given to the purchaser, and only handed over on disembarking the aircraft.
Why/when where those rules changed?
Diegodamonkey
Rory Armstrong 5
Maybe Mister Trump will start deploying National Guardsmen on every flight?
bartmiller
bartmiller 2
There are already Sky Marshals on just about every international flight to or from the U.S. and on many U.S. domestic flights (actual percentage and coverage is not publicized).

Other countries have similar air marshal programs.
ravenwolfmoon
Raven Harris 1
😂
eppright
Mike Eppright 4
There needs to be training on the use of duck tape and/or tasers!
aerobat3
Duck tape, yes. Tasers no. My God! Allowing some pissed off tired flight attendant to make that kind of judgment call? Just imagine the potential harm (heart attack?) and/orlaw suit.
bingobanner
Russ Brown 4
Trained ducks? Quack, quack. Just for a laugh.
Elvisf16
Grady Morton 4
What about Duck Tasers? Instead of firing a prong it fires duck tape.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
Thanks for the laugh.

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