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NORAD pilots talk flight restrictions, intercepts with civilian pilots
"PETERSON AIR FORCE BASE, Colo. - Sometimes you need pilots to talk to pilots. Working under this premise, three pilots from North American Aerospace Defense Command, the binational U.S. and Canadian military organization charged with intercepting aircraft that violate temporary flight restrictions, attended the AirVenture air show in Oshkosh, Wis., July 23 - 29, to talk face-to-face with general aviation pilots on how to avoid TFRs and what to do if they're intercepted." (www.norad.mil) Mehr...
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Whoever wrote the handouts for NORAD needs to learn the difference between "effects" and "affects".
With all the possible reasons to have a problem with something - effects vs affects? really? On a topic as inflammatory as TFR's, the part that stuck with you the most was a spelling error? The comments below are much more important than spelling, wouldn't you say? It kinda makes you sound like a bit of an A-hole when you rip on someone for spelling... no offense.
What we all should be discussing is that federal government, knowing full well that the pilots they were addressing were not terrorists or a threat of any kind - and in a nice way told us to pay attention to the TFR's or we will be intercepted.
Yeah, this is nothing new - but stop for a minute and really think about that - before 9/11 we would never have heard such comments. Being under constant threat of fighter interception is not the American way - far from it. While I agree with all the comments below regarding the current president - lets not forget who passed the patriot act, and all the non-patriotic parts of it. Don't worry guys- I'm a republican... but seriously folks - we need to reclaim out way of life. 911 changed things but this doesn't mean we cant or shouldn't change them back.
It should not be common to hear threats like this from the federal government to its law abiding citizens. While the patriot act seemed to some as a necessary evil, I for one think It is just evil. The terrorists wanted to change our way of life by using fear as a weapon. They succeeded, but not because of the death toll on 9/11, but because of the way they fundamentally changed our way of life. To continue down this path is to allow them complete victory over us, to change back to the way we used to be, would show our enemies that we are not afraid of them - and that we will not give up our freedoms (which is exactly what they wanted us to do).
Lets get our country back!
P.S. Bernie, feel free NOT to spell / grammar check my posts. The message is more important than the technicals of my writing.
What we all should be discussing is that federal government, knowing full well that the pilots they were addressing were not terrorists or a threat of any kind - and in a nice way told us to pay attention to the TFR's or we will be intercepted.
Yeah, this is nothing new - but stop for a minute and really think about that - before 9/11 we would never have heard such comments. Being under constant threat of fighter interception is not the American way - far from it. While I agree with all the comments below regarding the current president - lets not forget who passed the patriot act, and all the non-patriotic parts of it. Don't worry guys- I'm a republican... but seriously folks - we need to reclaim out way of life. 911 changed things but this doesn't mean we cant or shouldn't change them back.
It should not be common to hear threats like this from the federal government to its law abiding citizens. While the patriot act seemed to some as a necessary evil, I for one think It is just evil. The terrorists wanted to change our way of life by using fear as a weapon. They succeeded, but not because of the death toll on 9/11, but because of the way they fundamentally changed our way of life. To continue down this path is to allow them complete victory over us, to change back to the way we used to be, would show our enemies that we are not afraid of them - and that we will not give up our freedoms (which is exactly what they wanted us to do).
Lets get our country back!
P.S. Bernie, feel free NOT to spell / grammar check my posts. The message is more important than the technicals of my writing.
It's not just spelling. They are two different words with two different meanings (that should be learned in high school). Personally I think it's a little juvenile for you to be so offended that someone ponts out the difference.
Spelling and grammar mistakes are not that important - the message is what matters most. English is a second language to me - and I do my best, I have no accent - intelligence is not measured by ones spelling or grammar. Most would say I have great use of the English language. So if I say affect instead of effect - just based on the sentence you can understand the meaning. If Einstein made a mistake in spelling - which I'm sure he did given English was not his primary language - he still gave this world fantastic advances in physics and Mathematica. And he failed math class!!! So who was the idiot, the math teacher or Einstein?
So what if some one says preventative maintenance instead of preventive? Who cares as long as the maintenance is cometed. The plane being airworthy is much more important.
What I find juvenile is your feeling of superiority over those who make mistakes in grammar and spelling. Get over yourselves. We are not on an "English 101" forum - we are on an aviation forum. Let's focus on flying and not scan for errors in the technicals of the writings and comments.
So what if some one says preventative maintenance instead of preventive? Who cares as long as the maintenance is cometed. The plane being airworthy is much more important.
What I find juvenile is your feeling of superiority over those who make mistakes in grammar and spelling. Get over yourselves. We are not on an "English 101" forum - we are on an aviation forum. Let's focus on flying and not scan for errors in the technicals of the writings and comments.
Amen brother, but we won't get our freedom back till were rid of our current pres,
and all his friends and relative's. In God we Trust!
and all his friends and relative's. In God we Trust!
Ron, I totally agree. I live in Chicago and we have Rahm Immanual as our new Mayor here. We gotta get rid of him too. His father was my pediatrician when I was a kid. My mother ran into him and apparently his own father thinks he's a power hungry communist A-hole. Im sure most of you guys have heard about the chick-fil-a story. He is denying a business license to chick-fil-a because the owner of the parent company said that he believes that marriage is between one man and one woman, and that homo-sexuals should not be able to be married. RAHM then responded that since Chick-fil-A's views aren't the same as his- that he will not issue the license to open a new storefront. Even homosexuals (some not all) see a problem with this. The democratic party isn't even ashamed of him, his views or his actions. These are NOT american values. And neither is the patriot act. I don't care who wrote it, who signed it, etc etc... all I want is to see these horrible laws removed. If we don't do it soon - it will only get worse. At a certain point it will be a case as "its been this way as long as I can remember" and then we are all F'ed. Just like the Harrison tax act in 1914 that was just supposed to tax opium and its derivatives , that eventually turned into an un-winnable war on drugs that treats addicts as -criminals rather than patients, causing the US to jail the highest percentage of its population than any other developed nation - at an average of 80,000 dollars a year in costs per detainee... yet the law isn't even 100 years old, and these drugs weren't even really illegal until many years later. We gotta stop this thing before we become a fascist state - and all our freedoms are given up in the name of safety. We got to stop the special interest groups from ruining America too. Everyone has their hand out asking - what am I going to get. Hell, even John F. Kennedy said "ask not what the country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." - but that was back when Democrats, despite still not having the views we do, were still actually democrats. Today the Democratic party no longer really exists and only a communist/socialist party using the name Democratic party is working hard daily to ruin America from within - with such absurd measures as passing multi-thoudand plus page bills without even reading them, as Queen Nancy Pelosi was so proud of - openly admitting that is what the Democratic super majority was in fact doing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLUat least in the past those A-holes would try to lie about it, but now they have the Balls to tell us exactly what they are doing because they know there isn't a damn thing we can do to stop them... just like Maxine Waters admitting the liberal agenda to take over private industry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0BdKkEKTrs
Ron, remember what Mark Twain said about the motto, "In God we Trust." He said it was a really good motto, and that it couldn'nt be any better, " ... even if it were true."
So, it's okay to put your faith in mark twain's superior intellect than it is to believe in G-d? If nothing else, I'd rather gamble on eternity with G-d than risk one without! If I'm wrong- oh well, if you're wrong - eternity is a lot to gamble with very little to gain from such a wager!
Jason, sorry if I offended a cherished belief, but Twain and I were talking about the motto, not about God, Allah, Krishna, etc. If any of us REALLY trusted in a higher power, we certainly would not carry a gun, get a complete weather briefing before flight, fasten our seatbelts etc. Now, let's get back to flying, OK?
