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An-124 flies to Ponta Delgada to save Delta's stranded Boeing 757

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Ponta Delgada, Portugal - An Antonov An-124 that belongs to heavy cargo operator Volga-Dnepr was sent to Ponta Delgada to transport required parts for the maintenance of seriously damaged Delta Boeing 757. (airlinerwatch.com) Mehr...

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triton2106
Stephen Cavender 16
For reasons unknown, a 124 has twice visited DFW over the past few months. On takeoff, it flies directly over my house at around 2k - 3k feet. The entire house vibrates from the roar of its engines. Simply amazing aircraft.
TexasKid747
JW Wilson 8
I got this at KDFW 10/18/18. In rush hour traffic, lol. https://photos.app.goo.gl/UYMo1Z7PYQgLLrEj6
sparkie624
sparkie624 4
WOW... Nice picture... But from a Maintenance Point Of View, I sure would hate to have to do a Full Tire and Brake Change on that A/C... LOL!
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 5
Wouldn't be as bad as having to do it on the 225...that's a lot of tires.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
You got that right!
jbsimms
James Simms 4
On a B-36, there were 36 spark plugs per engine w/six engines. Some 216 (some numbers given is 336) spark plugs had to be changed after each flight. Each -36 had 7,000 vacuum tubes to look after.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 6
"Six turning, 4 burning"
jbsimms
James Simms 8
Sometimes it was Four turning, Four burning, One on Fire, One missing....
williambaker08
william baker 2
That would have been a sight to see lol.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
Ahh so it was Four turning, Five burning, One flew away
williambaker08
william baker 1
OH come on rapid you know you have had to see that. If not im sure its floating around youtube someplace lol.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
Oh I wish..tbh, Id love to try and find out where the XC-99 went and the 2 YB-60's..I still think they would have out hauled a B-52.
williambaker08
william baker 1
It was sitting at Kelly Airforce base from what i heard. I think it also got disassembled and take to the Wright Patterson airforce base were it was restored and im gonna guess they put it in the Museum of the Air force.
williambaker08
william baker 1
http://www.air-and-space.com/xc99.htm
williambaker08
william baker 1
Hey rapid. Just a question and probably a dumb on at that. If they C-130 and C-17 can haul heavy loads they why then hell are we relaying on the An-124 to haul our heavy loads???
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 4
C-17 Military/physical clearances for loads..C-130 weight/physical clearances Believe it or not but even C-5M can't haul as much as the AN 124-150M
williambaker08
william baker 1
I knew i forgot a plane. I just figured they could haul parts from atlanta to ponta delgada. I mean its not like they are hauling engines for the 777x. But everything has there limits.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
Who knows...they may have flown a whole nose section...be nice to get some photos from there
williambaker08
william baker 1
That would be nice to get some photos. And as for a nose. Were would that have found one that quick.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 2
All kinds in the airliner scrap yards
williambaker08
william baker 0
True but from the time of the accident to the time of moving parts and equipment was like 4 days. The really took a nose off in that short about of time?? Must have known from before the accident that it was going to be needed.
jptq63
jptq63 1
Read the comments below, but apart from a C-130, I would not think a C-5 or C-17 available / in use by a private cargo operator. Please correct it wrong.
jbsimms
James Simms 2
That is correct. NASA used a C-141 used for an airborne telescope they now use an old 747SP for. The -141 is still visible next to the left side of the airfield fence line @ Moffett Field near San Jose, CA.
jptq63
jptq63 0
Recall this plane was also used to haul stuff from KFLL to Puerto Rico after the hurricane.
bidrec
Richard Haas 2
Looks like it was an Ilyushin for that: Volga-Dnepr Airlines ...respectfully requests an emergency exemption ...so as to permit Volga-Dnepr to operate five (5) one-way cargo charter flights, utilizing Volga-Dnepr's IL-76TD-90VD aircraft to transport cargo from Ft Lauderdale, FL to San Juan, Puerto Rico or Ceiba, Puerto Rico on around October 14 - October 25, 2017, on behalf of Global Wings Express, Inc.(FEMA)
The cargo to be transported by Volga-Dnepr consists of Hurricane Maria Aid Cargo consisting of (Tarps, Water, Food), weighing approx. 88,000 pounds.
https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=DOT-OST-2017-0149-0001
sparkie624
sparkie624 5
Those are massive planes.... While working in KMEM, I got to get inside of one... HUGE to say the least, and personally to me, the cockpit appeared to be 20th Century. More of a manual hands flying plane.
baqwas
Matha Goram 1
I believe the AN-225 used to visit KIAH in the past. It may have been the AN-124 if I'm mistaken although it would be difficult to mistake the former by a more experienced person than myself.
SmokedChops
SmokedChops 11
curious as to what exactly was brought in that was so outsized that it required a Ruslan to ferry it in... Anyone know where the flight originated? Is the NLG assembly that large? Did they bring in airframe structural members? Does the light go off in the fridge when we close the door? So many questions, so little coffee. I chuckled at the wording of 'The airline rented the An-124 from Volga-Dnepr', similar to renting a Hyundai Elantra from Hertz. "Would you like the collision damage coverage?" "...ummm, yes" "keys are in it, row D, space 17"
tshaff
Tim Shaffer 5
According to a friend who works at Delta, it's gear, a repair trailer, and lots of jacks and supports.
bpuroll
Bernard Puroll 3
Looks like Snohomish WA ( Boeing ) and then Hartsfield in Atlanta were the previous stops.


https://flightaware.com/live/flight/RA82077


The light in my fridge only randomly comes on when I open the door.
tfultz
Timothy Fultz 1
A buddy of mine and I were out planespotting at KBNA on the evening of the 24th, and we saw it overhead en route to KATL. We both got pictures of it, before looking it up. My buddy thought it was a 74 at first, and then we saw the flight info, and both of us halfway lost our minds. Haha
FastmoverSFO
Tim Thometz 1
It took off from Paine Field ( Boeing Everett WA ) just prior to the Flying Heritage Lufwaffe Fly Day ...109/Spit/Hurricane/P47 & Storch.
Jackx9
Don Quixote 5
I'm not surprised at all, Delta does an excellent job fixing up and keeping old mad dogs and 57s still flying today, and with maintenance like the TOC in Atlanta? Great mechanics and engineers. Everyone on twitter jumped the gun and thought this plane was done lol
Jackx9
Don Quixote 3
It may have been a hard landing, but at only 23 years old, Delta can get a lot of money out of this bad boy until it's time to park it out in the desert. Easily over $100 million in revenue just from this 757 over the next 6 years or so.
siriusloon
siriusloon 3
I thought you weren't posting here any more?
Jackx9
Don Quixote 2
I decided to change my mind, since this isn't a garbage article.
bentwing60
bentwing60 0
Some old timers and conservatives here might dream of the time when you and bt don't!
21voyageur
Dan Chiasson 2
Bit surprised. Thought they would cannibalize for parts for the rest of the fleet. Nice to see that they are giving her a second life! BUT its all about money and it seems the bean counters have determined that it's a thumbs-up!
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I said from Day 1 it was repairable... But extensive... Not surprising... I was figuring they would do the minor stuff with a go team to get it ready to ferry, but guess they elected not to do it that way.
sailingeric
eric cothern 2
I saw it in ATL on the 25th, it must have been why it was there, loading up for the rescue.
williambaker08
william baker 4
Well i guess there not scrapping it. Gonna be an expensive fix and return to service.
Propwash122
Peter Fuller 2
I’m thinking that perhaps they’ll do a minimum repair onsite in Ponta Delgada, sufficient to ferry the plane back to the Atlanta base. Then, full repair back to operating condition or if closer analysis so indicates, write it off and part it out.
siriusloon
siriusloon 0
Why would they fly it across the Atlantic to fix it? You don't think anyone in Europe can do it? Shorter distance to get there with lots of alternates on the way.

And surely they can make the fix or scrap decision where it is rather than in Atlanta. Delta is an airline, they can fly their experts to the jet. They don't have to bring it to them.
linbb
linbb 3
Because they own it not you for one the other is its up to THEM as to who fixes it. Its not uncommon to have a crew flown in to fix a certain type of AC rather than use local help. Happens all the time up in AK know of a fellow years back that went out of the US to fix C46 AC that were damaged.
Viperguy46
Jesse Carroll 1
oops Antonov
jptq63
jptq63 1
Forgot to add, they / this plane hauled stuff from KFLL to Puerto Rico after the hurricane there....
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
Right plane, wrong company...Antonov Airlines used their AN-124 for relief supply runs, while Volga-Dnepr used their Il-76TD.
bbabis
Bill Babis 1
Goes to show what I know. I guess the poor little fishies will miss their reef.
williambaker08
william baker 1
WOW Thanks Yall we got to 100 upvote. Im impressed very impressed. Thanks so much.
joaquinzh
Joaquin Zhang 1
What is airport size that the An124 requires in minimum?
lynx318
lynx318 1
Wikipedia is your friend.
"Take-off run (maximum take-off weight): 3,000 m (9,800 ft)"
"Landing roll (maximum landing weight): 900 m (3,000 ft)"
These are at maximum weight stats.
williambaker08
william baker 2
Thats cheating lol. Why not phone a friend lol.
lynx318
lynx318 1
And here I was thinking I was doing sumtin friendly. (insert smiley with tongue hanging out emoji)
williambaker08
william baker 1
You were lol. I was just messing with you. Got to have some fun sometime.
joaquinzh
Joaquin Zhang 1
thanks
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
You should have included weight stats.
For the AN-124-100M, Max takeoff weight is 402,000 kg (886,258 lb) and max landing weight is 330,000 kg (727,525 lb). The AN-124-150M increases those weights by 30,000 kg (66,139 lb) and take off and landings increase a few hundred feet.
The runways need to be able to accept those rolling weights.
williambaker08
william baker 1
What are you the human wikipedia of aircrafts lol. How you been?? Also did you see my comment a while ago on the XC-99.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
Studied some Russian aircraft..some should never have left the ground while others literally lift the ground.
Yes saw the article, thks..very interesting how they actually took the top off to transport
..also found out why nothing came about of the YB-60..both airframes were scrapped in 53-54.
williambaker08
william baker 1
YB-60??? And you said you were looking for it and i kinda knew were it was hiding in plain sight lol.
lynx318
lynx318 1
Volga-Dnepr don't have any AN-124-150M, only 12x AN-124-100 according to their site's fleet listings.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
Correct, but Antonov Airlines does have AN-124-150M, and since poster asked about the AN-124, thot I would add it. Volga is actually getting some of their 124's upgraded as we post.
lynx318
lynx318 1
http://www.volga-dnepr.com/en/fleet/an-124/
orda320
jim sink 1
It’s fixable. I witnessed the same type incident in MDPC(Punta Cana) mid 2000’s with a European carrier. Captain was known for flying his “air show” power off approach to landing and one time it didn’t work out so well resulting in a bent fuselage. It sat for months and months while a crew came in separated the cockpit from fuselage inserting a new section and flying it home.
dennbyuk
Dennis Barney 1
At first looking at the photos posted it certainly looked like a WO obviously we cannot see the airframe itself but the 100 million or so of possible future revenue would be offset by the cost of repair?
21voyageur
Dan Chiasson 1
Damage to frame / pressure dome (?) must be significant enough to warrant repair on site approach vs quick ferry. Anyway, gear issues identified which makes repair on site the only option.
aafrq
aafrq 1
Please be more Accurate in your description of Origin...it is Not of Russian origin...
It is Ukrainian ...note the colors on the fuselage...none is RED.....
flieger90
Norman West 2
Volga-Dnepr is a cargo carrier from Russia. That is what meant in the article.
aafrq
aafrq 0
Incorrect : “ The An-124 Ruslan (Nato reporting name Condor), designed by the Antonov ASTC, based in Kiev, Ukraine, is a very large cargo transport aircraft. It is manufactured by Aviant State Aviation Plant, Kiev. Both the Antonov Aircraft as well as the Cargo entity are Both based in Kyiv Ukraine... one should vent’ properly, especially in today’s climate.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
Now you are the incorrect 1 Volga-Dnepr is a Russian registered cargo carrier, not Ukrainian, and that is what is meant in the article Antonov Airlines, based in Ukraine, also uses their AN-124, but it is NOT they who did this run.
That and NO, it is no longer made in Ukraine. The sole remaining production facility is Russia's Aviastar-SP in Ulianovsk.
aafrq
aafrq 0
There iš No current production of this Air Craft Anywhere...
The remaining are based in Kyiv..
I very much Doubt that Vlad would allow the Ukrainian Flag colors which are emblazoned on the current models to ‘represent a Russian Cargo Entity....
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
AGAIN..that is Antonov Airlines, who have the Ukranian flag colours as part of their livery, NOT Volga-Dnepr. They are NOT all stationed in Ukraine, as a matter of fact 1 is actually station stateside, and the sole remaining production facility is Russia's Aviastar-SP. Antonov wants to re-start production, but that has not happened, as of yet. And if/when they do, it will not be a full Antonov build. I say is because the plant still produces different aircraft, aircraft upgrades and parts.
It is you who needs to re-in"vent" your venting.
Aspectcarl
Carl Richards -1
I took a family vacation on this island in 2006 and still recall the runway being fairly short visually compared to various airports I'd travelled through for business.

According to Volga-Dnepr's brochure for their An124 the take off and landing distances are 9800 feet,the brochure doesn't state the payload for this runway length requirement. According to wikipedia the runway is just shy of 8200ft. I don't doubt that a seasoned crew and reduced payload would reduce the runway length requirements, but even so it must have been an interesting landing.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 3
Ive seen these land laden in 7900 ft. Also remember 1 taking off from YXU, back in the mid 90's, with a 109 tonne locomotive onboard..runway length there is only 8800 ft so JATO was used.
kevinkeswick
Kevin Keswick 4
Last year the An-124 landed at Thunder Bay Canada - it's longest runway is just 7318 ft
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
It's been back a few times since then, bringing in assemblies for Bombardier.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Surprisingly that can take off and stop in a very short period of space... No shortage of power on those engines.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
Surprisingly, sparkie, those engines have less thrust than a CF6-80C2. The stopping is due to the speed brake/hydraulic brakes on the beast.
jbsimms
James Simms 1
It was originally built as a strategic airlift for the Soviet military, so the ability to land or take off in short distances isn’t surprising.
bidrec
Richard Haas 1
Supposedly a runway in Elmira NY was extended to 8001 feet to accommodate these planes. This was on behalf of Sikorski, "The 97,000-square foot Hawk Works, which opened in 2007, is a finishing facility where Black Hawk and Naval Hawk helicopters are customized. They are sold mostly to foreign militaries." The facility was shut down, however.
https://www.the-leader.com/x1849217420/Sikorsky-to-shut-down-old-Schweizer-facility
linbb
linbb 1
See if you can find it taking off from an airport I think in Aussy land. Comments are priceless guy in the tower was using his cell phone to record it. Vodka one is rolling, wow he sure is not going very fast, end of the runway comes up and it is in the air blowing dirt. Then the comment, gee hope my battery doesn't go dead so I can record the crash.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 2
That was an Il-76, not an AN-124
"We have Smirnoff"
linbb
linbb 1
Its a YouTube video
1639847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVC2eWO_nw
sgbelverta
sharon bias 1
Thanks for the link. Funny as only the Australians can be.
bentwing60
bentwing60 1
In some parts of the world and ops., apparently only Vr counts!
1639847
сбалансированная длина лётного поля, anyone?
bentwing60
bentwing60 0
Me thinks ICAO might address this in english! the fars and ICAO have a lot of commonality. However, having read your translated cryllic nugget,is it any wonder they have one of the worst safety records in the pseudo developed nations world?
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 0
More like "максимальная тяжелая нагрузка, короткая ВПП, используйте ее"
bentwing60
bentwing60 0
I surrender to the vastly superior minds of the cryllic language. And halt the search at google translate. but he did use a bit of runway. And maybe they will fly that 75 again after being so thoroughly written off here.
siriusloon
siriusloon 0
In the early 1990s, an An-124 flew a full-size railway locomotive from London, Ontario to Ireland and YXU only has 8800 feet. They departed light on fuel (and didn't use all of the runway) then made a stop in Montreal, which has a longer runway, and continued on to Ireland from there.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
Umm..that is the 1 I referred to...it actually had almost a quite a topping of fuel, but used JATO to help get her airborne..Quite the sight seeing the old bird wind out then jets fire.
They did have another flight out back in 2011 I believe..it too was laden with quite a load, but light fuel takeoff.
aafrq
aafrq 0
I stand corrected....” Volga-Dnepr won its 13th award “Wings of Russia”, the category ‘Contribution to the development of Russian air transport’, for the first time included into the Awards program.“
Now I must ‘vent’ more often...
vanstaalduinenj
Total hull loss and repairs made to just harvest the parts in Atlanta?
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
If it, in fact, was a total hull loss, it's airworthiness certificate would be stripped and it could not be flown back to Atlanta. No one in their right mind is going to contract an AN-124 plus personal, just to get a craft ready to fly to strip.
lynx318
lynx318 0
Need to remember to renew my membership in the AAAA (Antonov Airfield Assistance Association)
sparkie624
sparkie624 -6
I think this certainly means they plan to fix it.. Instead of Ferrying the a/c, they are going to transport it... Going to be an interesting maneuver... Going to have to take off the main gear and wings... Probably have to make 2 trips... I hope they get it on Time Laps video, would love to watch the loading and unloading.
mattbna
mattbna 2
They are most certainly not taking it apart and transporting it in the AN-124. The Antonov was dropping off the required tooling, replacement parts, and jacks to repair it enough to fly it out of there.
mattbna
mattbna 2
Did you actually read the entire story at the link, sparkie624?
59Captain
M. R. 1

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