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(CNN) -- Russia's mission control has reported an abnormal situation with a space freighter that launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome bound for the International Space Station, NASA said Wednesday. The rocket was carrying 2.9 tonnes of food, fuel and supplies, NASA said, but has no passengers on board. (www.cnn.com) Mehr...

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padgettrea
Ronald Padgett 0
Yup. Really good idea to end our space program, Mr. O. Marking my calendar for Jan. 20, 2013: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE&playnext=1&list=PLA795D307176E0B10]
speedbird9
Marty Martino 0
FACT CHECK: the end of the shuttle program was initiated back in 2004 in the aftermath of the Columbia falling apart on re-entry - look up "Vision for Space Exploration 2004". Obama was just an Illinois politico at the time (which I wish he still was, but that's a different topic). If Constellation were on time, it wasn't going to be operational until 2015 anyway. And I don't believe Constellation was - (and I hated the program anyway). Like going from Concorde to the 787, bass-ackward and calling it 'revolutionary.'
alistairm
alistairm 0
@Ronald: So, none of NASA's spacecraft have ever blown-up?? Besides the fact that the shuttle program killed itself. Mr. O. has nothing to do with it. The shuttle program just became way to expensive for it's own good. Blaming Mr. O. for every darn thing that is wrong or has gone wrong with the US, is not going to get anything fixed.
JD345
JD345 0
It's not like there's a shortage of things to correctly blame on Obama...
Pigweed298
Roy Kizzia 0
Blindly parroting Fox Noise talking points and blaming everything on Obama, is mindless and is evidence that some people in this nation are not qualified to govern themselves.
JD345
JD345 0
Like defaulting to Fox News jokes isn't a talking point?
jmilleratp
jmilleratp 0
Regardless of who is responsible for where America is in terms of its spaceflight operations, Russia is the only way to space at the moment. With the failure of two rockets, I think NASA and American aerospace consultants could go to Russia to help make their rockets more reliable. While the loss of this rocket is considered "not critical," that might not be the case if it happens again.
jicaro
Robert Van Dyke 0
@ all
True BHO might in one SMALL SMALL way not have everything be his fault, but at the same time this person really has no concept IMHO how to govern a country, and is full of sayaing one thing today, and totally say tomorrow that he never said that [really has never stuck to his word on any policy with the exception of the Helthcare thing "to be a total failure?"]. I tend to be neutral myself politicaly, but really this guy is scary, way to much intidelment ideology.>and sorry yes this is a diffrent topic my apologies

On the other hand @ Marty I did know this on the shuttle pgm,, but I also remember when it was mentioned that the shuttle pgm would be comming to an end for the original shuttle's, and that studies were or had already started on a more moderen ones.
I do not know of the Constilation Pgm, will read on it, but I do not know if this is what you are talking about or not, thanks for that info
GringoZX
Robert Cheeseman 0
it's fair-play...we blamed all the wrongs in the world on GWB...and some still do. :-/
alistairm
alistairm 0
@John: your statement about NASA and American aerospace consultants going to Russia to make their rockets more reliable, seems to be a bit arrogant - why would they need "Americans" to make their own rockets reliable?. Before these two accidents, they had 30 years of success. Can not say the same for the Shuttle program, where people actaulyl got killed. I am sure that the Russians are just fine by themselves. They are the ones who first put something into orbit after all.
jimquinndallas
Jim Quinn 0
Alistair--good point. The U.S. has had a number of failure, including Air Force satellite launches. There are failures on both sides of the North Pole. Although I personally would rather fly in something U.S. made, there is a risk no matter who the carrier may be. The old joke about sitting atop a huge rocket full of explosive fuel awaiting the launch and realizing that the manufacturer was perhaps the lowest bidder does come to mind. Some years ago I remember seeing a Russian ground crew member stuffing the drag chute from a front-line modern fighter aircraft (Fulcrum, perhaps?) into a container using a very long-handled plunger. It looked like an oversized butter churn, and I had to laugh! But it worked....
kb9uwu
Matt Comerford 0
The Soyuz has a better successful launch rate than the shuttle. Did you know that the Atlas V (very successful US launcher) uses Russian engines?
kb9uwu
Matt Comerford 0
"Ronald Padgett
22 hours ago
Yup. Really good idea to end our space program, Mr. O. Marking my calendar for Jan. 20, 2013:"

Ronald, Mr. O is trying to turn over many aspects of US space to private enterprise... shouldn't that turn you on? If Mr. O tapped ANWR tomorrow you would criticize him... Mr Hypocrite :)
alistairm
alistairm 0
We should send over the Germans to help the Russians out. After all, a German (Wernher von Braun) got the US space program off the ground after Sputnik was launched.
kb9uwu
Matt Comerford 0
Well said Alistair.. von Braun got us to the moon!
jcr31047
Robert Duke 0
WOW....The old addage applies here, you get what you pay for, nobody wants the commitment (taxes) to fund a space program but when its gone they are the first to complain. Ya, I'm sure starting Jan 20, 2013 the space program will again be top priority especially during the current deficit meltdown...Get real! Although the decision to retire the shuttles is shaky at best..as long as they are maintained they would've been fine, just look at the B-52's 60 years old and counting and slated to be retired around 2035! (in service for 75 years!)
alistairm
alistairm 0
@ Robert: The shuttle had 30.45 million newtons of thrust (7.8 million pounds of thrust) total! This in comparison to the B-52H total pounds of thrust of 110,000! Just with those numbers, you really are not comparing apples to apples when you are comparing a B-52 airframe to a shuttle airframe. Do we need to get into G loads and Mach numbers as well? It's like you are comparing an F-1 car to a turtle!
jmilleratp
jmilleratp 0
@Alistair My comment wasn't arrogant. Today, space travel is a cooperative world effort, with the exception of China. I would have most welcomed Russia's engineers to give their input on our Shuttle failures. A fresh set of eyes is always good. Since America has decided to withdraw from spaceflight for four or more years, it is our own fault that the Russians are the only ones who can get us to orbit. Since they are the only ones, their space program is now even more important. When it comes to the Shuttle Program, I am not one of those who believes it was a great success. It was 30 years of staying in Low-Earth Orbit. And, the two Shuttle losses are unforgivable, in my opinion. Both happened from known hazards, and both should have been prevented.
jcr31047
Robert Duke 0
@Alistair...Wasn't insinuating that the B-52 airframe maintenance would suffice for the space shuttle. As we all know airframes (especially shuttles) are built with huge safety factors built in. Proper maintenance within the realm of the original design/safety factors is always achievable no matter what the machine is. We could be still flying the Wright Flyer today had it been maintained properly.

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