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FAA orders a halt to evictions of aviation companies at embattled Santa Monica airport

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"The Federal Aviation Administration on Tuesday ordered Santa Monica to halt the evictions of two aviation companies at its municipal airport until the agency can finish an investigation into the city’s effort to shut down the facility" (www.latimes.com) Mehr...

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RRKen
Kenneth Schmidt 9
So the FAA does have a spine after all. Let's see how far they are going to go to protect aviation in that area.
TorstenHoff
Torsten Hoff 5
The City of Santa Monica will ignore them. The city attorney has warned the city council in the past that their course was likely to be unsuccessful, but the council is hell-bent on getting rid of the airport, regardless of the legality and economic consequences.
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
The City of Santa Monica topped its bi-monthly newsletter Nov-Dec 2016 Seascape with an article on the history and future of the airport from the city's perspective. It also provides the status on the 5 priority strategic goals of the city. #1 is maintaining an inclusive and diverse community, #3 is closing the airport. (#4 addresses the homeless)
If interested, you can read it here:
http://www.smgov.net/uploadedFiles/Departments/CMO/CommGovRel/2016/Seascape%202016%20Nov%20Dec.pdf
2018paulrobbinx
Paul Robbins 2
Why do they hate the airport so much? It creates jobs and brings considerable income to the community. On another article there was only a handful of people making a ton of noise abatement complaints.
carlsonj
James Carlson 3
Commercial real estate goes for about $550/ft^2 in Santa Monica, and it's not like new land is being manufactured. Developers and speculators there have billions of reasons to want to raze the airport and gain 215 acres (over 9 million square feet) of land. I suspect that's really the prime motivator: money.

The rest looks like noise. The most cogent complaints mostly seem to center around vague "safety" concerns, but with no real analysis of the supposed problems or possible mitigation.
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
In a parallel squawk on new air service, I posted a link to the City's bi-monthly newsletter. In that they laid out the plans for park space for the airport. Looks quite nice, but I wonder how long that plan will last if and when it does close. They just swore in the new mayor. A part time position, his day job is in condo sales.
carlsonj
James Carlson 1
No kidding. Condos. What a surprise.
OnTheHorizon
Tony Smith 0
One of the reasons it's probably disliked is precisely because it creates jobs and economic benefits - perhaps if it was instead said that the airport generated welfare and was a designated sanctuary area the average citizen of Santa Monica would love the airport wholeheartedly.
joelwiley
joel wiley 3
Another is the developers who rent the pols want to tear up the 'tarmac' for condo projects including at most 3 token 'affordable housing' units.
Moviela
Ric Wernicke 1
I foresee Trump appointments to run the FAA as very pro-business and Santa Monica will quickly find federal funds absent, and a judge ordering them stop using pretext to force changes at the airport that makes it unattractive to aviation, like fool-hardy fuels (bio anything or unleaded only) and lack of pilot training.

At best the City could be ordered to divest itself from the airport and a nonprofit be appointed to run the facility as an airport for 99 years.
canuck44
canuck44 7
If the city resists the FAA needs to seize the airport using eminent domain. Should be easy as is is a listed alternate for LAX.

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canuck44
canuck44 3
Any removal from office would be a State issue, btu the Feds can seize it, rent facilities to the FOB's and appoint a private Management. It can all be put on hold once the E.D. is filed and if they defy that, then the city and its agents can be held for contempt. I doubt Governor Moonbeam will act.
joelwiley
joel wiley 6
From the Peoples Republic of Santa Monica (PRSM) 'Santa Monica officials say they are working in “good faith” to provide the services and fuel required by federal regulations.'
From which version of the NewSpeak dictionary are they taking "good faith"?
RECOR10
RECOR10 4
I have it on good word they are talking to Chicago to find an amicable solution (one that worked for Chicago as well)

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RECOR10
RECOR10 6
You must not be familiar with Meigs field....

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bronson199
Frank Reynolds 3
Oh wonderful, Peter F Hartmann is back.
carlsonj
James Carlson 3
Someone needs to set up a pool so we can bet on when Mr. Hartmann will need to choose a new alias.
RECOR10
RECOR10 3
Apparently "humor" is lost on that fellow. As if anything, posted by anyone, no matter what position they are in - in life...on THIS website will make any difference to even a gnats life at KSMO

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RECOR10
RECOR10 1
My family company does in fact own a Citation...so...your premise falls on deaf ears. If you think that posting on this forum will assist your "dog in the fight" you are sadly mistaken (and a fool if your comments ever end up in any sort of litigation).
linbb
linbb 6
Let see if one dark night the dozers don't appear and destroy the runway. Seems that's the mind set down there of the locals. Glad that its NIMBY as cant put up with stupid.
1rupert
michael cowan 3
One question. How many of these NIMBYS who are worried about this airport lived there BEFORE IT WAS OPENED IN THE 1940? IMHO, those are the only ones who have a legitimate complaint. And I'll bet the number is 0!

We have a similar issue here in Kentucky. Bowman Field was opened in 1921. A AIRPORT THAT WAS OPENED IN 1921 HAS NEARBY RESIDENTS CLAIMING IT'S EXISTENCE HURTS THEIR PROPERTY VALUES!!!???

So far the local NIMBYS have tried to limit Bowman's airport operating hours, limit types and sizes of aircraft who can use the airport, eliminate IFR operations, and most recently keep the FAA from trimming the trees to continue to have safe approach paths!! IMHO the only NIMBYS with a legitimate complaint concerning the operation of Bowman Field are those who lived nearby before 1921.
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
I think every airport has newly arrived disgruntled neighbors. My local example is the former Mather AFB, KMHR under whose approach I live. It's 10 miles and in the next county. NIMBYs in my county are objecting to increases in freight traffic due to the noise. They weren't here when it was a SAC base and don't have the BUFFs and tankers with which to compare. There has been a rendering plant a couple miles SE of the field, having moved there in 1970's to be far from town. Developers built tracts under the flight path and ever closer to the rendering plant. Guess what?
2018paulrobbinx
Paul Robbins 1
Why do they hate the airport so much?
amiablebird
Ed Merriam 8
Santa Monica hates vaccines, transit, and basically anybody who has to work for a living
avihais
Martin Haisman 3
Except developers.
awawhecht
ALBERT HECHT 1
good for the FAA
devsfan
ken young 1
So the City officials want to de-privatize a perfectly good working system in the hopes of shutting down the airport. And why? Because a few over the top boisterous NIMBY's have it in their tiny minds that suddenly Santa Monica Airport is creating a grave danger ( is there any other kind?) to the public.
Or...is this a ploy on the part of the city leaders to close the airport then parcel up the land and sell it off to developers. Imagining many cities in CA are buried in debt due to poor fiscal planning AND pension obligations to retired public employees, it is very possible the City needs the cash generated by any sale
tegelad
Alan Tegel 1
Maybe they should let the people get what they want. Then all the airlines and air service can move out and then they can have the peace and quiet that they want. Then when they want to fly they can have the peace of handling the drive through traffic to LAX for any flights .....
Steelyeyedmissileman39
Mike Bradley 0
A Republican says " it's a little too noisy here, I will move to a quieter place". A Democrat says its a little too noisy here, I am gong to make this everyone's problem".

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dee9bee
dee9bee 12
I agree with 'Wilbur' (we know who you are, that's OK). The noise of a DC3 or -6 was surely louder than what the local residents are hearing now. None of the current residents were there then, anyway, I'll bet. I'll repeat what I said a few months ago. There will never be a new airport built in California, ever. Do your best to save what you have. Even if, for some reason, you were to propose a new airport in,say, Barstow, there is some endangered tortise to be saved and we'll all be dead before the permits are approved.
jdriskell
James Driskell 1
Instead of Barstow, why not rehab Daggett?
dee9bee
dee9bee 1
My sectional is a bit old, but it says Barstow-Daggett. I haven't been to that airport since 1979, so I don't know it's condition. Even then, I don't recall it being anything to brag about. For me nowadays, Barstow is a quick stop at Dennys while traveling up or down I 15.

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dee9bee
dee9bee 4
Yea, I was only using KDAG as an example. My point was I don't think anyone can build a new airport ANYWHERE in California anymore. The enviormental obstacles would be enormous. I don't live in Cali anymore and don't care what that they do down there at this point. I now live in SW Utah where we have an almost new airport. I flew to almost every airport in the L.A. basin in the early 70s while building time for my commercial but never to Whiteman or a couple in the 'Inland Empire' I never made it past KBUR for some reason. Later, I was a CFI out of KOXR and went north and west for those $100 hamburgers (then $50, now $500, I suppose)
1BabyGirl
1BabyGirl 2
You must live in SGU. I lived there in the early 80's as well as in CDC working for Sky West. Great place and miss Zion & Navajo Lake. Just sayin' howdy..
dee9bee
dee9bee 1
You are correct, sir, as Ed McMahon used to say on the Johnny Carson show...Love it here, though today is one of those very rare 'VFR not recommended' days. Zion has become ever more crowded but I was at Navajo Lake for the first time in July.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
Isn't the Drug-lord over there by Whiteman named Sanchez?
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Yup! Lived a few blocks from KMDW in 1959 as a kid. Loved the planes even when they flew over and knocked off the signal to the tv antenna. Lol
RRKen
Kenneth Schmidt 2
Lived in Burbank in '59, heard both the birds at MDW and the railroad to the south of it. All that noise did not stunt my growth, bring on maladies, and ruin the property values. In fact, life was good.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
Yes it was. A short bicycle ride from 62nd and Kenneth to the observation deck was heaven. We jumped the turnstile. Lol
gerardogodoy
gerardo godoy -1
California has become in these last eight years a Banana Republic.
ronberaha
Ron Beraha 0
Another "So Called" media company phishing for members!!!
wingbolt
wingbolt 0
I'm probably in a minority on this one. I wish they would go ahead and close the damn thing. That way I no longer need to try to convince my passengers to pick a different airport. Between the nasty grams I get for noise and restrictions on APU usage it just nothing other than a huge pain in my behind.

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joelwiley
joel wiley 2
"In the meantime, China and India are paving new airports as fast as they can get the ground for them leveled. Not a good omen for the future...."
Could you clarify your 'not a good omen'? What do you mean?

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RECOR10
RECOR10 2
Nancy Peloci hates pollution air travel creates....unless she is on her own USAF provided flight...."She" can do it...but YOU are destroying the Earth.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 0
"DO AS I SAY,NOT AS I DO! IM SPECIAL."

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jdriskell
James Driskell 4
This guy is a pox!

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jdriskell
James Driskell 6
You sir, are a pain the the southern hemisphere. Apparently you don't have anything to offer to the discussion except for taking ten minutes to say what can be said in two. maybe you should take up tweeting when someone gets under your skin or disputes you point of view. But of course, you wouldn't be unique in doing this.

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joelwiley
joel wiley 4
It may be a POBCAK or PEBCAK malfunction.

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joelwiley
joel wiley 4

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