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Overweight British Airways Passenger Gets Stuck in First Class Seat on Lagos to London Flight

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In an unusual incident on a British Airways flight, a passenger traveling from Lagos, Nigeria, to London found himself stuck in his first-class seat. The incident took place on July 29, 2023, during a 6-hour flight on a Boeing 777-300ER aircraft. The passenger was seated in 1A, a spacious first-class seat with 78 inches of legroom and a seat width of 22 inches, according to Seat Guru. (www.airguide.info) More...

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hangar14
Rick D 54
"Thankfully, the aircraft landed safely" Well I'm glad. Write anything, just to make the story more than it really is. The passenger wasn't aware of his situation until after the plane had landed, yet somehow, the crew managed to land safely.
cmuncy
Chris Muncy 20
yeah that was a pretty stupid statement...
SorenTwin
SorenTwin 4
Hardly. If there was an incident, he'd be screwed.
rmchambers
rmchambers -1
Heart disease, diabetes, copd, that's more likely to kill him than an air incident. They make their choices they pay the price.
claytonvandiver
Clayton Vandiver 4
Size is not always delimited by making their choices. Size often has little to do with lifestyle. Rudeness and prejudicial comments are common everywhere and are absolutely a lifestyle choice.
withersfamily
Lee Withers 3
May be not such a silly statement. What if there had to be an emergency evacuation?
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 6
He would have stayed put in case of an emergency evacuation.
Simple really.
YZC
YZC 10
Not just that, but as a past flight instructor, I am surprised airlines do not ask for your weight. Knowing where you sit, it would be easy to do a weight & balance in advance. On a fight this year, they moved heavier passengers towards the front. That was a first. Remember the Beach 1900 out of Dulles that was so tail heavy, it crashed and stalled on climb-out. The TSB then changed the standard weights of passengers.
GreggB57
Gregg Bender 17
I used to do W&B for aircraft from the SW-4 to the BAC-111,BAe-146,etc. Airlines use average weights used for passengers, freight, and baggage. With a large enough sample over enough time, you'd be surprised how well it works. There is even a special weight listing for athletic teams and other groups of people larger than the average person.
As far as this poor passenger goes, I feel bad for him. The health consequences of carrying that much weight are catastrophic.
As to our opinions about him, they're irrelevant.
CFIND
CFIND 4
Porter Airlines does on their Q400 flights. Not sure if they move the obese around.
ToddBaldwin3
ToddBaldwin3 2
Patriot Express flights asks each pax their weight, including carryons at baggage checkin.
jimjallen
Jim Allen -9
Could you imagine that? Asking people what they weigh? You know they’re going to lie. Get them on a scale?? You’re lucky they actual listen to the PA. One time a few years ago I actually had a really rude Southwest FA tell me how I was endangering everyone else on the flight by sitting in a seat and needing an extender. Hey, assholes, had you allowed me to board when I was supposed to and I sat next to my 6 year old daughter, it wouldn’t have been an issue. No one else would’ve been inconvenienced.
airguideonline
airguideonline 5
In the early days of commercial travel, with aircraft like the Ford Tri-Motor and others, each passenger had to be weighed. This crucial practice ensured the safety and balance of the aircraft during flights.
JewelCowart
Jewel Cowart 4
I fly on a private companies plane and we have to give our weight then they weigh us on the baggage scale as a group pre flight
JewelCowart
Jewel Cowart 5
I fly on a private plane out f FL and they ask our weight then weigh us as a group
srobak
srobak 4
You fly on a plane that's barely the size of a 2-stall garage - not a 150+ seat airliner. This is why.
kenbadger1
Ken Riehl 3
Probably would not have had to worry about taking the cabin door apart.
mppaloha
Maleko Pinkerton 2
Back in the day when a passenger could reserve an exit seat, I was always quizzed by the cabin crew about helping with the door and assisting passengers to evacuate the aircraft. No problemo!
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
If he got stuck in the seat, look at the lives he could have lost getting Stuck in the Emergency Exit. I forget what airline it was a number of years ago, but they actually tried out having "POS" person to sit in a seat to make sure that they fit! Maybe that should be a universal standard that everyone sit in a model seat... If you can get out of it easily, you simply are refused the flight. Fair to everyone... Not to single anyone out, everyone (Skinny to Fat) would be required to do it.
srobak
srobak 12
Or the airlines could just put the seats back in the planes they used in the 70s and early 80s.
rlowney
rlowney 6
So I guess the disabled wou;d be disqualified from flying under your model. Only the skinny, hale and hearty are allowed to fly. Everyone else is refused the flight. Oh and I suppose the would children as they would need extra care too.
thenotoriousrob
rob strong 7
He said EXIT ROW. Yes, if you're morbidly obese or disable you absolutely should not be allowed to sit (block( the exit row. Major safelty issue. Not sure why sparkie was downvoted so much, but it's spot on.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 6
Children belong in the baggage hold with the other emotional support animals.
YZC
YZC -2
That would never work because...they should also use the racks for fitting carry-on luggage that is never used. People are just too lazy to check their luggage and wait at the carousel.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 3
With checked luggage charges people are just bringing more carry on.
srobak
srobak 3
Carry-on luggage should not need to be checked. That's the entire point of carry-on luggage.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum -1
No, that is not the point of carry-on luggage.
There have been aircraft lost because of items in carry-on luggage.
Your ignorance is astounding.
srobak
srobak 2
I'm not talking about the items in carry-on luggage. Jesus would you pay attention and 86 the wild extrapolations?
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 1
If I would have had to check luggage on my recent trip to Scotland, I would have missed my connecting flight back home. We took off from EDI to AMS 2o minutes late. We arrived and had to literally run to our gate where the aircraft was boarding.
If I had checked luggage - I would have missed the flight. I ended up being in the middle of the push to load economy and was given quite a few very dirty looks as I turned to get into first class.

I spent over a month in Scotland - no need to check luggage except on the egg-beater flights to and from the Orkney's (which I highly recommend as a destination)
srobak
srobak 1
If you are a remotely experienced air traveller - you know better than to make your connections that tight on an international trip.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 0
Lame comment - really lame.
srobak
srobak 1
Maybe - but it is the truth. What would have been lame is if you had missed your connection because you didn't give yourself enough of a layover. But maybe instead it would have taught you a valuable lesson that you seem to desperately need.
boxterfan
Bob Clark 3
The article is properly worded. The implication is that if anything had happened (which thankfully, didn't) he would have had a problem and caused one for anybody who had to help him or in who's way he was.
Bayouflier
Bayouflier 5
See what you started Rick? Your funny/sarcastic comment on another idiotic writer on air guide info led to an inane discussion about doing W&B calculations on a 777-300. Scary part is these guys are serious.
thenotoriousrob
rob strong 1
Witnesses did report the left wing mere inches from the runway on touchdown though.
N8101
Lee Smith 21
Had to deal with an over weight fellow passenger. Returning from London to Tampa, the middle eastern man, wearing a winter trench coat during the flight, in the dead heat of summer. I was able to lift up my aisle seat arm rest, but was soon told it had to be down. I told the flight attendant, its impossible to sit here, and have the passenger next to me, taking part of my seat. She said follow me and moved me to business class seating. I can fully understand overweight folks, but they can hinder another passengers space, comfort and safety of having to exit the plane in an emergency. The airline industry needs to stop making seats smaller and the distance between seats as well as come up with a better way to allow the o/w psg's to book seating.
jimjallen
Jim Allen 2
100%. For me the real the problem is legroom and I’m fat. I can get out of a seat.. I just can’t stand up.
srobak
srobak -1
The arm rest does not need to be down.
eichmat
Tim Eichman 4
I'm a big guy and always pick aisle seats and I always put the armrest up, though most airlines I've flown have told me that they have require it to be down just during takeoff and landing phases--it can be up during flight and during post-landing taxi.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 4
I’m not real oversight but my problem is my shoulder width. To avoid cramming others I take the aisle seat and let a good part of my extra width occupy the aisle were I just get in the way of the FAs. FAs are generally OK with it as the can see what would happen to the person beside me if I sat centered in the seat. It’s uncomfortable but better than squashing someone else.
thenotoriousrob
rob strong 2
I would immediately put the armrest back down if I was a middle seat next to you. And if you wanted to get into a pissing match about it, I'd get a FA involved to move me. I'm not sitting next to someone where I have to feel their fat rolls against my side. No thank you. No way. Never.
djames225
djames225 4
Where did Tim state he's fat?? I'm a big guy myself but it isn't fat. Hell I can't even fit in a MRI machine due to my shoulder width. I too take aisle seats and keep the armrest up as much as possible.
Next time when a person says they are "big" don't just assume they are fat!
srobak
srobak 2
he's referring to the aisle armrest - as has been the case in this entire subthread.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 0
There is no arm rest for that passenger's seat. It's an individual open suite.
srobak
srobak 0
Read the comment I am replying to.
nicoghilardi
Nico Ghilardi 13
Airlines should put a couple of rows of extra large seats for extra large people. And extra large people should pay a higher price for their extra large seats. After all, airplanes are limited by weight, not number of people.

This would also make it much nicer for normal size people. I am tall and of athletic build, but not overweight. For me, economy seats are already a torture. But they become unbearable if I am sat next to an overweight person, as constant touch becomes unavoidable. I imagine that's not all that nice for the overweight person either. If I could have a 125% seat for 125% the price, I would buy it every time.
whip5209
Ken McIntyre 2
And...there should be a fat fare. Fatties don't deserve special treatment.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 2
Then buy two seats or upgrade to business class or First class.

Maybe take a train or the bus.
nicoghilardi
Nico Ghilardi 7
Why so hostile? This is a reasonable concern. Not everyone can afford business class. And everybody should be entitled to the full usage of the seat they pay for. Whether it is politically correct or not to say so, but many overweight people do NOT fit into their economy seat and use space in the adjacent seats. Therefore, they should get bigger seats, and as a consequence, pay more. Or, and I am sure this gets a lot of negative responses, eat less and exercise more.
ssobol
Stefan Sobol 1
The number of passengers on passenger airplanes can be limited by the number of exits or even pilot union contract clauses.
nicoghilardi
Nico Ghilardi 6
You are correct, of course. That's true. I was arguing from a technical perspective, not a legal or practical one. At the end of the day, planes can carry only a certain amount of weight. And with freight, we pay strictly by weight. It is not clear to me why a 150 lb passenger should pay the same amount as a 350 lb passenger sat next to them, and additionally impinging on their comfort because they protrude out of their seat. I am sure that's not comfortable for both passengers. Therefore, put some extra large seats for extra large people and charge them for the extra weight.
watkinssusan
mary susan watkins 8
my goodness! he was in a first class seat and they had to remove a door to get him out??how large was this person?in coach i know passengers are requested if a flight is going to be full, to purchase 2 seats..when not full, an agent usually will try to seat the person with no one next to him/her where they can raise the armrests..planes today are "squishing" people topgether in smaller seats,with not only less movement,but less legroom,and despite calls to change that,nothing is happening..oh well..
pki57146
Pamela Kinnane 11
With the world's population getting larger in height and girth, the airlines have decided we need smaller seats and less legroom.
cos3asg
cos3asg 5
You are so right, Pamela, and the ludicrous pretzel logic of the airlines’ actions positively beggars the imagination. PK
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 1
The real question is how much did he eat on the plane? They didn’t take the door off to get him in so he fit then…
Reminds me of this… https://youtu.be/GxRnenQYG7I
mohenley
Mark Henley -1
How large was this person? He could probably have leveled the scales with a baby elephant....
srobak
srobak 0
First class seats should not have doors.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 4
Why not? The BA FC suites have doors that can be closed for privacy. The passenger has the option to leave them open or not. Most people would welcome a little extra privacy, especially if they're already shelling out for FC.

If you're so massive you can't get out of the airline's most roomy seat, you maybe shouldn't be flying. I agree that the cheap seats have become absurdly small, but that wasn't the issue here.
srobak
srobak -1
There shouldn't be suites on commercial aircraft. If you want private transport - take your own vehicle or a private aircraft. Expecting that degree of privacy when in a metal tube for 3-15 hours with 200-400 others is ludicrous. Everyone has been fine with the first class seating up until the relatively recent trend of compartmentalization - there is no need to go the extra mile with it. This has nothing to do with size.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
Are you suggesting those who have lots of money sit with the peasants?
srobak
srobak 1
No - they are free to sit in FC as they have been for decades. But they don't need privatized, closed-off cabins on a commercial airliner. If that's what they want - then they need to fly private aircraft.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 10
Lizzo knows this horror.
amacnabb
ALAN MACNABB 7
Lizzo flys FedEx...
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 0
That’s not nice. Funny but not nice.
srobak
srobak 2
The truth is rarely nice.
Ricovandijk
Rico van Dijk 9
The first results after the switch from Pretzels to flapjacks are in :D
jimjallen
Jim Allen 6
Spacious 22” width? In what world is that considered “spacious”?
jimjallen
Jim Allen 5
I take that back.. just for shits and giggles I measured my office chair .., 22” seat width.
jimjallen
Jim Allen 5
I’d call it “adequate”.. nowhere near “spacious”
srobak
srobak 1
wow - what chair is that? Mine is only 18.5.
mohenley
Mark Henley 4
In a world where people aren't the size of baby elephants...
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 1
Given that it's an individual open suite, that's not a bad description, vix. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/British_Airways/British_Airways_Boeing_777_300.php


The article picture is a stock photo, not a photo of the actual seat.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 1
In a world where are are all like Twiggy.
tomsi
Tom Silva 6
That pic is of a fat person but not THE fat person stuck in the seat.
briffaud
Denis Briffaud 3
It would be interesting to explore how Japanese airlines handle sumo fighters nowadays; long time ago, they were allowed two seats in economy class.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 3
Luxury class baggage holds.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 1
Andre The Giant used to get two seats.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 1
On second thought, because sumo wrestling is not an international sport, there is probably no reason to fly.
E1craZ4life
Edward Bardes 2
Not internationally, anyway.
watkinssusan
mary susan watkins 5
by the way, that picture with the article is NOT one of the passenger written about, but a "stock photo" of a coach passenger with a bit of a belly strapped comfortably into a seat..!
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 0
True. FC on that flight is an open suite, viz. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/British_Airways/British_Airways_Boeing_777_300.php
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 5
Stories like this seem to be very popular. I guess that’s because, on some level, we can all relate.
1skate1
David Purtz -1
I can't as I fit nicely into a first class seat, even business, and coach class.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 3
The out-of-control pre-teen constantly kicking the back of your first class seat is very relatable however.
mpenney
Michael Penney 5
After flying 45 years for work and personal around 3 round trips a year, I have never had the the pleasure of a first class seat.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 2
I used to have Platinum status on Northwest and almost always flew up front. Those were the days!
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 0
You poor sod.
cos3asg
cos3asg 7
Had the same problem as Lee Smith below, when I used to fly for business. It was a DH-8 from YFC to YOW. The woman was proud to announce to anyone who would listen that she weighed 440 pounds, and yes, she was seated right next to me. I was squashed against the bulkhead for almost 2 hours and the crew couldn’t have cared less. I should also mention that she absolutely stank. I was not able to move very well for some time after we landed and the crew just shrugged. I am way more careful with seat selection these days, but I fly a lot less. That was just about my worst flight ever. PK
mppaloha
Maleko Pinkerton 2
Uh, maybe time for a physical and AA prescribed diet. A little gym work would be good. First class seat, total shame.
LeanderWilliams
Leander Williams 2
I'm a big boy, and I have never had problems when I have flown. I always get a window seat since I do a lot of aerial photography. The airlines have always graciously provided me with seat belt extenders and passengers sitting in the middle seat have always thanked me for my consideration for not getting up and down. I take care of those things before the flight. I have never heard of anyone so wedged in that they could not get out of a seat after a flight. If he was THAT large the airline should have acted BEFORE the aircraft took off.
rf3ocob4
P J 2
Just like your cary on, they should have a mock up. If you don't fit you don't fly.
ko25701
ko25701 4
This is going to sound bad but there has to be a weight limit that a person can be to fly. The seats are only designed for average size people.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 9
Today's average isn't the same average as the average of yesteryear.
srobak
srobak 4
And the seats of yesteryear were designed wider than they are now.
helensreekumar
sreekumar kumaran 5
Obisity has become a worldwide problem and the more prevelent in the US,as long as society turns a blind eye and allows excess obisity as normal then people will continue to eat all the junk food.
political correctness also to be blamed.
srobak
srobak 2
It's not just junk food. Unless you are growing, picking and slaughtering it yourself from the field to the table - 95% of the food on the shelves - including organics, healthy, and envo-friendly - is so jacked full of artificials and other random crap that it alone is contributing to the average size of even the healthiest people having increased by double-digit percentages over the last 30 years.

Combine that with the new-fangled WFH trend, the death of skilled labor and trades, and the general inactivity of civilization caused by being glued to tiny phone screens all day, and shoving them into the hands of infants - there is only on possible result.

Now add in the people who have diseases or health issues which contribute to weight gain - such as hypothyroidism, CFH and Cushing's.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 1
If he was a WFH person, why was he on a airplane? Especially without bunny slippers. /s
srobak
srobak 0
WFH = WFR as well, or maybe he was on vaca.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 3
FYI, this is the seat map for BAs 777-300s: https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/British_Airways/British_Airways_Boeing_777_300.php

Note that FC seats are individual open suites, not conventional seats with arm rests.

If you can't leverage your way out of one of those AND you require the removal of a door to get of the flight, you probably should not be flying, sorry.
BillOverdue
Bill Overdue 3
Wow, a whole 22" wide seat in First Class! Not very generous I'd say for the $4K he spent on it.
chris13
Chris Bryant 5
Was it Lizzo?
gzorbas
G Zorbas 4
Is Lizzo the singer that is denying sexual harassment allegations levelled by former dancers?
MikeMohle
Mike Mohle 6
Singer?
gzorbas
G Zorbas 7
I was wary of using the term artist?
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 3
Nope. Chris Christie.
EMK69
EMK69 5
New Airlines coming soon: Foxtrot, Alpha, Tango Airlines is in the making for those passengers who need a little more space.
srobak
srobak 2
I can tell not one of you have ever served in the military.

When flying on webbed benches in C-5s, C-141s, C-17s, C-130s, KC-10s and the like - everyone sits shoulder to shoulder and hip to hip. And then after you are all scrunched in there - the loadmaster or crew chief informs everyone to slide down some more because there are 5 more people getting on. And yes - they ARE getting on. Nobody is denied boarding - no matter what.

And yes - you WILL slide down more and get much more squished together, and you WILL NOT bitch or whine about it, and you will eat the brown-bag meal you are given without a food choice, a tray table or an arm-rest or a window seat. You will fly across the ocean for 5 or 10 hours, and you will simply be happy you got there.
amacnabb
ALAN MACNABB 1
I doubt those passengers are "paying" for a seat. Their "employer" (the US Government) is providing it to them, au gratis, with no choice...
srobak
srobak 3
Most of them pay a higher price than even the highest cost premium seat would be.
whip5209
Ken McIntyre 2
Complete with widebody aircraft with lifting noses. And crane trolleys that go the length of the cattle...errr....passenger cabin.
srobak
srobak 1
I've never understood why the C-5 wasn't adapted for commercial use and produced. It could easily transport the largest cargo, and since there is already an upper passenger deck - 1 or 2 more below would be easy to accomplish.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 2
Fuel burn.
Military aircraft are not necessarily designed for fuel efficiency.
srobak
srobak 0
And now we have the M. I bet when comparing from a weight perspective it is not any worse than a 380.
davidfairchild53
david fairchild -1
And also Papa India Golf Air.
ArthurNetteler
Arthur Netteler 4
My EDUCATED GUESS as a Retired Commercial Pilot... If you had not been a lard-butt, you would not have BEEN in this situation. Next time if you do not feel the NEED to LOSE WEIGHT.. Try "DHL CARGO"! What a silly ass Story!
skyeagle
Yassine Cherfouni 2
Again some people speculate and jump to conclusions as “ the jury , the judge and the lawyer “ they would talk and vilify, trash a person like if they were present on that flight and that it has “ affected their lives “ and made it “ miserable “
First of all the person has paid for his ticket .
Therefore it is a contract to honor and insure . His safety and wellbeing .
The Airline company (s) have their own protocol and/ procedures and must abide by the states laws and international laws .
Thing must be sort out prior to passengers boarding a flight . There are laws protecting people with disabilities and other health problems.
A person cannot be denied boarding for being too large .
If the airline accepts the person to pursue his/ her trip , then the airline is responsible to do wherever it can to accommodate the passenger.
It’s not the Captain’s job nor the flight attendants to remove a seat or modify it . They don’t have time for these things . They can only brainstorm the best solution to find a solution without disrupting the flight , offending the person and creating a disservice for other passengers.
However to make “ an emergency landing “ to remove a “ large ticketed passenger from first class , not the wise and right decision in my own logical opinion.
There is a solution to every problem.
jimjallen
Jim Allen 7
Actually, I think they can deny boarding for any reason, especially one that has an impact on potential safety of flight.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 1
Purchase an entire row in first class if you can't fit in one seat and just life the armrest. Of course, you may need a seatbelt extension but they do have those on board.
srobak
srobak 3
you know the armrests in FC don't lift up, right?
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 2
No I didn’t. Thanks for point that out.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 0
This was a first class open suite, not a conventional seat with arm rests. The person you replied to has no idea what they're talking about.
srobak
srobak 1
Open suite or not - it has arm rests, and they do not lift up. Exactly like I said. And on more conventional, domestic FC seats - the center armrests are actually consoles containing tray tables and the like - and no - they don't lift up either.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 1
First class seats vary widely from airline to airline. FYI, this is the seat map for BAs 777-300s: https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/British_Airways/British_Airways_Boeing_777_300.php

Note that FC seats are individual open suites, not conventional seats with arm rests.

If you can't leverage your way out of one of those AND you require the removal of a door to get of the flight, you probably should not be flying, sorry.
PDLanum
Philip Lanum 0
First class on Delta the armrests are down for takeoff and landing.

But then you have never been in First class before either. Keep making stuff up.
srobak
srobak 0
We're not talking about takeoff and landing. I fly more biz & PE than I do cattle class - and I only usually fly commercial when travelling internationally. Everything else is well within reach of mine.
JKMSEM
John Middaugh -1
The solution for every problem is to charge extra for those who are too obese to fit in a seat! This is painfully obvious in Economy Class where a person is so fat that they need to raise the armrest to occupy a seat!
thenotoriousrob
rob strong 2
Start weighing passengers with luggage. If you're that overweight you get and pay for a "fatty seat." You board first and everyone boarding the plane gets to walk by you to see your oversized fat throne.
loubearr
loubearr 2
That is not a first class seat on any commercial airplane.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 0
Right you are. It's a misleading stock photo. This is the seat map for BAs 777-300s: https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/British_Airways/British_Airways_Boeing_777_300.php It's an individual open suite, not a conventional seat with arm rests.
mimana
mimana 2
That is just absurd and ridiculous. Overweighed people need to pay more for extra room. This obese man probably deteriorated the first class seat with his extreme weight. The next passenger will go uncomfortable with a broken seat.
crazyed
edward broff 1
When I worked at pan am in Miami our New York crew chief always used to tell us about the lady that flushed the head while sitting on it, they had to remove the head from the floor and take the whole assembly out of the aircraft with a forklift.
srobak
srobak 2
That sounds more like lore than reality. Even back in PA's earliest days there was a gap between the ring and the toilet module.
crazyed
edward broff 1
The initial flush the can is under vacuum, it pulled sections of the derrière inside the can sure pressure normalized , but now there was too much body inside the can and the poor lady was fastened. Some stories are just too wild, you couldn’t come up with this, no matter how big you make the seats the cans will have to stay small
srobak
srobak 2
I understand that, and what you are saying. What I am saying even with that - unless she lifted the toilet ring and sat on directly the module - that should not have happened. In fact - had just about anyone lifted the ring and sat on the module they too would have become fastened. With the ring down there is plenty of gap to allow air to exchange - regardless of the person's size.
crazyed
edward broff 1
Evidently the poor lady lifted the seat to get a scosche more room!! Just imagine the embarrassment
Ajbkeeton
Alexander Keeton 1
thats hilarious
JayPowell59
Jay Powell 1
Just my $.02 worth...if you need a crane to exit passengers from an aircraft, that passenger obviously shouldn't be on a plane...maybe a ship.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 1
It is possible to be too skinny to fly?
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 1
Sounds like I am going to have to shed a few stones before I fly internationally!
rocteur
Jerry Rocteur 1
We want photos of the removal of the seat from the airplane!
RAMJET44
Roger Kassebaum 1
Overweight should pay more, not block emergency aisle.
scubaboy3c
Steven Williamson 1
"Sorry folks, we're still waiting for the cherry picker to arrive so we can deplane the 1st class"!
RandySalzman
Randy Salzman 1
Imagine the possibilities of an urgent need to get to the lavatory by this behemoth. Then everyone would really need the oxygen masks to drop--AND WORK--and, honestly, that person would, if able to manage to slip out of the seat, then be in line to get out the emergency door and potentially blocking it with all of all stuck BEHIND.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 1
The last time I flew British they were actually BOAC and flying from JFK to BDA in an almost empty business class cabin of their 747 was a blast.
CrowleyKenai
Charles Henry 1
I mean, we all like pasta or a good steak but DAMN!
JKMSEM
John Middaugh 1
Another reason for the airline industry to set an average weight for passengers and charge extra for those who weigh more than the average weight for flying. It's painfully obvious that passengers who need to raise the armrest to sit in a seat only pay the same as those who don't need to!
whip5209
Ken McIntyre 1
And to think...back in the '80s when I was working for an airline, the average passenger weight was set at 165lbs on the weight and balance sheet.
thenotoriousrob
rob strong 1
That's a 5th grader in the USA now.
CFIND
CFIND 1
I hope they charged him for the “rescue” and the delay of the aircraft. Imagine sitting for that many hours? No wonder he’s such a fatass
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
OMG... And the even have a picture... That is Funny... I just hear a call to Maintenance now: "Hello, Maintenance, We need a Mechanic to disassemble a seat in first class due to a First class passenger is stuck in the seat!" :)
djames225
djames225 3
That is no first class seat..and even the chub in that picture looks squished in.
Call to maintenance would also include "oh and we need the door removed and a hoist to lift.

sparkie624
sparkie624 -1
The Article says it's first class... From the side view, it is possible, but I agree, it looks like a coach seat more than first class... and I have also noticed that many people reporting on Aviation are not that skilled at writing in Aviation Terms! They tend to get confused easily!
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 0
The picture is not a picture of the actual seat, viz. the seat map for BAs 777-300: https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/British_Airways/British_Airways_Boeing_777_300.php
djames225
djames225 3
P.S. I'm a bit of a chub myself but have not yet got stuck in a seat.
jimjallen
Jim Allen 2
Same.
whip5209
Ken McIntyre 1
There is a huge difference between "chub" and morbidly obese. I'm not a tiny person, myself. And I certain wouldn't get stuck in an aircraft seat.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 1
An appropriate amount of duck fat strategically applied and the passenger shoul slip right out.
CHBHA
CB HARDY 3
If it could be applied before the pax ate it
fritzacooper
Fritz Cooper 0
Eat properly. The obesity issue then is resolved. Eating properly can be accomplished.
Once I weighed 361 pounds, it to a size 56 (US) Long to contain me. It's now 45 years later, I weigh 200 pounds and wear a 43 Long suit.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
It’s easy to think everyone is the same but we are all individuals. I am tall and wide, exercise has made me wider so more exercise is not going to make me fit in those seats. You weighed 361 lbs because you were fat, I weigh 245 because I am just built bigger than most other people. So please let’s stop thinking everyone is built the same and can just change their eating habits to fit your ideal shape.
djames225
djames225 2
Not everyone has hyperthyroidism or hand and mouth disease (the inability to drop the spoon/fork when required). Not all medical conditions, that allowed a person to become obese over time, can be dealt with by eating and exercising properly. You probably exercised more than some or were more mobile than many while your eating habits changed. Good to see you could drop and maintain the weight.

Male, and female, hormones and genes can also lead to obesity along with accidents that leave a person unable to maintain proper exercise, including a daily walk.

I am not providing excuses for the person who had to be "craned" out of their seat. I do not know them but what I do know is not all issues of obesity can be dealt with proper eating or exercise. Some cannot be dealt with at all...managed, but still have the obesity stigma.
21voyageur
21voyageur 1
Well good for you. Show at least a bit of compassion for those that may have this condition. Indirect fat shaming is inappropriate
fritzacooper
Fritz Cooper 1
I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism at age 9 years. I am still hypothyroid.
Exercise and good eating habits. Keep me at a manageable size.
Please define fat-shaming?
1skate1
David Purtz 1
Don't like being fat shamed then lose weight. Everyone is long over woke theory.
kbarnoff
Kyle Barnoff -3
It's not a condition, call it what it is... a lifestyle choice.
4gloriajohns
Gloria Johns 2
It's a condition, Kyle. No one chooses the misery of being overweight and how it affects every minute of their lives. It's a disorder.
kbarnoff
Kyle Barnoff -2
Is this sarcasm? So the 73% of Americans that are overweight or obese have a condition? ROFL.
ZooJose
Tim Payne -2
B and in B, S as in S
srobak
srobak 0
You cannot choose to have or not have hypothyroidism, Cushing's, and CHF.
kbarnoff
Kyle Barnoff -3
And yet you can choose to exercise and eat better regardless of having these conditions. You are the problem, allowing people to use a medical diagnosis as an excuse to maintain unhealthiness. You're not helping them, you are shortening their life and reducing their quality of life by giving them an out.
djames225
djames225 3
Eating and exercise still does not say you will not be obese. Yes obesity in many can be managed, but not everyone, and your grouping everyone of that 73% into 1 category is uncalled for.
srobak
srobak 0
Another uninformed whackadoo.... sigh.

2 of the above 3 (of many more) conditions I listed would result in the person landing in the morgue if they exercised to the point of reversing the weight-gaining effects of their conditions. Think. Research. THEN post.
kbarnoff
Kyle Barnoff -3
Lol, you were at 3 conditions but now down to 2 because we made an argument. How long until you're down to 0 'conditions' aka excuses?

Weight gained / lost = Caloric intake + condition effects - BMR - calories burned from movement - calories burnt from muscle growth

That above equation holds true for everyone. Nobody is limited to burning 0 calories from movement and muscle growth. Everybody can adjust caloric intake. Fat doesn't come from the ether.

Your weak frame of mind is blinding you to solutions, and is very harmful to society. Please stop spreading your harmful perspective, instead please help people who are suffering lead better lives.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 2
Actually, obesity is not a major symptom of any of those diseases except for Cushing's syndrome, and that is vanishingly rare. I seriously doubt that was this passenger's problem. Cushing's is also very serious, with severe and life-shortening symptoms that require regular medical attention.
srobak
srobak -1
Actually I am still at 3 - because it still applies. Just that one of them doesn't land you on a metal slab if you exercise does not eliminate the fact that it is still a medical condition which contributes to it. And that is (again) only 3 of many... but they are some of the more common ones. And yes - there are many people who are in fact quite limited in both calorie burn and muscle growth due to medical conditions. Your horse has left from under you - it is time to step down.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 1
I provided references to three reputable medical sources to back up what I said. So far you have documented exactly zero of your claims.

Time for you to put up or shut up.
Justthefacs
Justthefacs -1
Interesting, "the passenger was mortified." As a side bar for those who say they can't lose weight, there were no fat people at the end of the Bataan Death March, nor in concentration camps. Cause and effect, eat less, lose weight. One's choice.
srobak
srobak -1
You cannot choose to have or not have hypothyroidism, Cushing's, and CHF. Those that had it during your proposed solution had already died off due to their health complications or been killed off by the Nazis.
1skate1
David Purtz 2
While the communists have killed off in excess of 130 million worldwide the last 100 years.
gbotemi08064133886
Adigun Samuel 1
The incident took place on July 29, 2023, during a 6-hour flight on a Boeing 777-300ER aircraf
LeanderWilliams
Leander Williams 1
It is disappointing to see the number of people making negative comments about obese people. Contrary to popular belief every fat person didn't get that way by overeating. If the airlines were not so focused on squeezing everyone into a silver sausage like sardines there would be room for comfort and it would only come at the loss of a few seats.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 0
He was a climate activist whose bottle of superglue inadvertently opened when the cabin pressure was reduced due to the altitude of flight.
YZC
YZC 0
Fat passengers overflowing their seats should have to pay the price and fly 1st class. On a flight more than an hour, I'm not putting up with some fat F.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 3
This person was in first class and still overflowed.
YZC
YZC 1
Yes I know. At least he was there and not in economy. But still, I would hate to pay 1st class ticket rates and have someone else sitting in my seat because they are fat. That and noisy kids screaming. I wear Bose noise cancelling headphones to avoid that on flights over an hour...Europe, Australia.
jimjallen
Jim Allen 10
As a fat person myself.. I like Southwest’s program. Buy 2 tickets, if the flights not full they refund you. I’ll accept it because it’s not my intent to crowd anyone else out. But if you enforce that, the next bastard thar kicks the seat behind me should get their ass thrown off the aircraft. I’m paying for 2 tickets, I get double the overhead space -keep the f*ck out.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 5
I’m not overweight. I’m just undertall.
srobak
srobak -1
Yes, you are.
cookiepotter550
Marguerite Potter -1
He can CHOOSE to lose the weight. It's not as if he has cancer or is without a limb. Come on.
kbarnoff
Kyle Barnoff 2
Agreed, it's really sad people think not calling out obesity is compassionate. It may be considered compassionate for 5 seconds, when they read your comment, but long term not being honest with someone is very harmful. What if applying some honesty resulted in that guy losing weight? What if he lost 200 lbs... how much would his life improve? Not only could he fly again, he would live longer and undoubtedly live a higher quality life. And the politically correct stand on their high horse of compassion... sad and weak.
srobak
srobak -2
You cannot choose to have or not have hypothyroidism, Cushing's, and CHF.
bchandl13
Brian Chandler 1
lmao pretending those ailments somehow violate the laws of physics and calories in < calories out and you still gain weight is cute.

Those mental illnesses do not and cannot create mass out of thin air. You're fat because you eat like dog shit.
srobak
srobak 0
Sorry - MENTAL illnesses? I think you better crack open a google search bar, because right now the only person demonstrating a mental illness is you with a ridiculous remark like that.
kbarnoff
Kyle Barnoff -1
And because of lack of exercise.

For every person who has one of these 'conditions' and is obese, there is another who took dietary action and is of normal weight.
srobak
srobak 0
Addressed at your previous remark on the same line. 2 of those conditions would result in the death of the affected person if they exercised to the point of reversing the weight-gaining effects of their non-mental illnesses.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 2
I do not see obesity listed as a common symptom of hypothyroidism (https://www.thyroid.org/hypothyroidism/) a disease which is treatable in any case.

Cushing's Disease is incredibly rare, as in 10 to 15 people per million (that would be .0015%). Obesity is one of the symptoms (along with many other, even more visible bodily changes). But the odds that this was the problem are therefore vanishingly small. https://www.ohsu.edu/brain-institute/cushing-disease-cushing-syndrome.

Obesity is also not a major symptom of Congestive Heart Failure: https://www.yalemedicine.org/conditions/congestive-heart-failure

All three of these conditions are also treatable. As is obseity.

Not a great argument, really.
kbarnoff
Kyle Barnoff 1
Always looking for the excuse. Cushings is rare, so building your argument on that is laughable and enabling. Sad.

CHF is highly correlated and arguably caused by obesity. Your best option is to lose weight. So not only are you enabling the disease by making excuses, you don't have the compassion to tell people the truth -> being overweight or obese is unhealthy and avoidable. Whether weight is lost from exercise or calorie restriction, or both, it benefits the health of everyone who is obese and drops weight. It is harmful for you to sit here and lie, instead of empowering people with disease to take back control of their health
kbarnoff
Kyle Barnoff 0
AND, try to think about what would happen if people exercised and ate well before they had these diseases. Would disease rates decrease? The answer is undoubtedly yes. CHF rates would tank. I would bet that Cushings would as well - the body is better at hormone management when exercised.
srobak
srobak -1
You do not get to tell me what I am thinking or doing, or why. Mind yourself. Your berating others and being dismissive of medical realities is far more harmful than you realize. I still remember your posts from a while back concerning another medical reality - and you are as off the mark now as you were then.
1skate1
David Purtz 1
And you know for a fact this passenger had one of your favourite 3 rare diseases? The vast majority of posters would probably bet he suffered from common slovenly obesity.
srobak
srobak 1
Thyroidism and CHF are not at all rare. There are others that contribute as well. People can bet all they want - it doesn't mean it is a sure thing - and it certainly would not be the first nor last time that they were flat wrong.
TheDogeof88
Chuck Lavazzi 0
Exactly what percentage of obese people have any of those diseases?

Also: I do not see obesity listed as a common symptom of hypothyroidism (https://www.thyroid.org/hypothyroidism/) a disease which is treatable in any case.

Cushing's Disease is incredibly rare, as in 10 to 15 people per million (that would be .0015%). Obesity is one of the symptoms (along with many other, even more visible bodily changes). But the odds that this was the problem are therefore vanishingly small. https://www.ohsu.edu/brain-institute/cushing-disease-cushing-syndrome.

Obesity is also not a major symptom of Congestive Heart Failure: https://www.yalemedicine.org/conditions/congestive-heart-failure

All three of these conditions are also treatable. As is obseity.

Not a great argument, really.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 0
I am more worried about the unbelievable amount of duty free, combustible alcohol that people are allowed to bring on board and stuff in the overhead.
thenotoriousrob
rob strong 1
Yeah, forget the 1000+ lithium batteries in the cabin on an average flight everyone. Let's worry about grannie's Kahlua exploding mid flight.
srobak
srobak 1
Because a sealed bottle of it is at risk of spontaneously combusting during a flight being pumped full of ice-cold air.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 0
No silly it takes up too much space in the overheads not accounted for during passenger check in and may put the plane over the weight and balance requirements for a safe take off.
srobak
srobak 1
lol. unless everyone is bringing like 5 bottles each - there is zero risk of either of these being the case.
Bandrunner
Bandrunner 0
Simple really - You eat all the pies, you're not in the skies.
brentaustinlee
Brent Lee -2
🤣😆😂😄😂

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